THE MDC formation led by Professor Welshman Ncube, Zapu and the Patriotic Union of Matabeleland (Puma) have signed an agreement to unite during elections expected later this year to fight MDC-T and Zanu PF in Matabeleland and the Midlands.
Brian Chitemba
Top level sources told the Zimbabwe Independent on Wednesday that representatives of the political parties recently met in South Africa where they signed documents to seal the deal.
Zapu secretary-general Ralph Mguni and MDC treasurer Paul Themba Nyathi reached an agreement on behalf of their parties after several months of engagement, according to a senior MDC official.
Zapu president Dumiso Dabengwa and MDC spokesman Nhlanhla Dube denied that an agreement to unite during the elections had been sealed, but sources insisted Dabengwa agreed to endorse Ncube as the presidential candidate while the parties will work on a formula to share constituencies in Bulawayo, and Matabeleland North and South.
“I am not aware of the agreement; there is nothing like that,” said Dabengwa.
But sources said the parties agreed to keep the deal under wraps “until an appropriate time”.
“There is also going to be a working formula of how Puma will be supported in some constituencies by the MDC and Zapu. It’s a coalition of parties that share a common vision and goals,” said a source.
The political parties, which are largely popular in Matabeleland and Midlands regions, are vocal on calling for devolution of power to be provided for in the new governance charter despite spirited resistance from Zanu PF.
Apart from the Midlands and Matabeleland regions, the parties are also eyeing some constituencies in Manicaland.
“The whole idea is to make sure the parties unite and win constituencies to create a hung parliament so that Zanu PF and the MDC-T won’t have free reign,” said the source. “This will enable Matabeleland MPs to push for issues that are sensitive to the region like devolution of power and Gukurahundi compensation.”
The political parties have repeatedly said the only way to topple President Robert Mugabe from his 32-year iron-fist rule was a strong coalition to avoid splitting votes to the advantage of Zanu PF.
this is a good move Cdes,we were having sleepless nights on how to stop Karimatsenga Macheka in that region which you are relevent,anyway.Now that you are going to neutralise him thanks comrades I asure you that “Once ZANU PF will die one”. We will now concentrate on other provinces especially Manicaland where he comes from.
Viva ZANU PF ,Pamberi naCde Dabengwa,Na Cde Village Politician(Ncube ) ne vamwe vese ve Devolution.Pamberi
WHO EVER YOU ARE YOU SEEM TO FORGET THAT Tsvangirai is former zanu and going by your dictum he will die zanu. Ncube has never been zanu and we the people of Matabeleland are pulling out of your zanu and your mdc t. we are doing this for us not for you
Iwe Nkata ndiwe people of MATEBELELAND here? I thot you are one chete.So speak for yourself. MDC-T party is the people’s project.TINOIDA .
a dangerous project by desperate people
Desperate times by desperate politicians! questions begging answers is who funded they SA meeting and for what purpose? why concentrate on one region? why do they want a hung parliament and for whose benefit ? why coalesce with small projects like Puma ? and why Welsh presidency ?
Mdidi
A hung Parliament is necessary if you want Mthwakazi issues addressed. No Shona leader will help you in that, no matter how much support you can lend them. They will just use you for votes and dump you at an appropriate time.
In politics, you have to have some leverage to get your way, without which you are wasting your time. Many have been crying that they have always voted for Tswangirayi’s MDC-T party but whenever he comes to Matebeleland he talks and behaves like Mugabe. He does not even recognise your language as he addresses you in Shona.
The day the two Mugabe and Tswangirayi realise they cannot govern alone but with Ncube – that is the day they will start behaving and respecting Mthwakazi people.
This is the only strategy that I consider effective enough to deal with Shona arrogance and majoritarianism – anything else, you will remain sorry beggars at the hands of Shona parties and politicians!
“Desperate times by politicians” indeed, it should be known that politics is a game of numbers, and even if you coalite 100 parties with a total of ten thousand supporters, they will never form a government. What political parties do not understand, is that cliental or membership is built over a long period of time. It is programmes rather than rhetoric that win people over to a particular political party.
People are never won over by the amount of hatred one has over other political parties or individuals within political parties. So in spite of all hatred and scornfulness that aspiring candidates for the office of government might throw out at each other, the party that will win is the one that the people want. The haling of insults that now characteristics Zimbabwean politics should be better left to “Dancehall” musical artists and political parties then concentrate on the core business of putting forward their developmental programs so that the people can decide who is better than others.
As you correctly say it, how can the coalescence of parties improve the logic of voting public? It is not strength in insignificant political unions that determine the people’s choice but what the people see in even one particular principled political entity.
Come election day mwana wamai, each political party, ZANU PF, MDC-T, PUMA, ZAPU, NDP, DP, MKD, ZANU Ndonga and the whole lot of the more than twenty other parties that will seek the mandate of the people to form the next government, will have to stand on their own, based on their principles and programs.
Viva democracy but smells of regionalism. GOOD LUCK!!!!
i think these guys are just tribal. whilst they may get a sit or two in parliament, the exercise will prove to be futile in the long run. Prof Ncube’s disciples, why is it that Ambassador McGee labelled him ‘a divisive character?’ Before you follow him, think again, i don’t trust him, and i won’t trust you as well. Long live the true patriots, fighting for true freedom of Zimbabwe.
There is no change. It is the same coalition which lost seats in Matebeleland in 2008. Good luck anywhere, ndiyo democracy yacho.
I wondered why Tsvangirayi labelled Prof Ncube a village politician.l have now seen it.Whilst it is their democratic right to vie for the biggest post in the land, the coalition was supposed to cover the whole country.Ko isu vekwa Chihota tovhotera ani?Whoever said Ncube is an opportunitist was correct.Why concentrate on Matabeleland and Manicaland only?Voters shld be aware of this chap.If he failed to win in his home twn,where else can he win?We will wait until vote counting day
another speteculor lie, rubbish by Chitemba….when was Nyathi in SA…his passport has no immigration stamp for that country in the last 3months…infact MDC is not ina coaition with any party
kikikikikikikikikkikikikkikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikiki, whatever they are doing, let them know tahat is bigger than those provinces. i wonder why other people are so resistant to change. if they do mahumbwe ZANU PF will win the elections. Be warned guys bcoz ZANU ikawhina ma1111111, THOSE GUYS NETHER FORGIVE NOR FORGET AND YOU WILL REMAIN A VILLAGE FOR SURE. SEE AROUND after elections
Even if you yoke 20 goats,they will never pull a plow.
Its good for Zanu Pf. But the coalition auctions the tribal nature of those involved. To cover the western region and part of midlands in alliance is to betray the previously held fears that Dumiso and Welshman are thoroughly tribal. Who will question that now? No doubt they will pick a number of seats especially those previously held by Tsvangirayi, spelling doom for the Ndebele factor in the MDC-T. Such is the nature of politics in that part of Zimbawe. They hate shonas with a passion. However democracy being a game of numbers, and the Ndebele factor being negligible, that will consign Ncube to a village politician to borrow from his erstwhile enemy, that will burry Damiso into Zimbabwe’s political dustbin.
They hate Shonas and Shonas love so much!!!! why should Shonas be hated in the first place or loveed in second place?
This is why you are hearing the noise on “Devolution” of power, getting louder and more polluting. Patriots that launched the “Nationalist” era of the freedom of the Zimbabwean people, never at one time spoke of regional politics. When one has nothing to offer to the people politically, like we are witnessing from Welshmen Ncube’s MDC, ZAPU, the Patriotic Union of Matebeleland (PUMA) and a few others whom we have not yet been made aware of, they introduce retrogressive campaign strategies like these. The problem with this type of thinking is that apart from dividing the people on tribal grounds for the benefit of these intellectual malcontents, it creates permanent negative issues, which future generations will find difficult to rectify long after today’s selfish politicians are gone. If one cannot stand the heat in the kitchen, they should do the logical thing by vacating to more comfortable surroundings. What we know is that Welshman is an academic, but what level of intellect he possesses, is not clear. Maybe he should be reasonable enough and go back to his core business- lecturing before he created political strife.
This marks the end of Dabengwa. Remember if any part does not form a pact with either Zanu PF to kill MDC-T or with MDC-T to kill Zanu PF then anenge achingove mahumbwe. You can say watever u want to say or do watever, but even bringing Mavambo into this MDC-Zanu-Puma pact wont make any difference. MDC-T and Zanu Pf have always enjoyed the majority support. So to hell with this pact of many political parties which at the end results into a small part not even a tenth of MDC-T or Zanu Pf. I would have applauded if it was a pact with MDC-T to kill Zanu Pf.
Didn’t read the news ZANU is pact with MDC-T my friend read da news
A pact of losers and nonentities. Whoever sed professors r intelligent is a liar
guys there has to be somewhere to start!!!maybe now prof will simba makoni?why so quick to judge?who is ruling out that possibility?u guys simple campaigning for,for those two regions ncube has identified potential the day for chegutu ,murehwa or whatever is coming.
i wonder who came with this notion that zimbos are educated,the pple who can’t manage their own dollar and are bankrupt as a nation mnxxiiii liyanyanyisa mani!!!
What of an MDC T-ZANU PF pact
see yah after elections fellaz. lets the best party wins
Its actaul surprising to note some of are actually out of when it is only afew months be4 we vote. Its like we got some who still cant see where are going. Guys wipe the confusion from you face we need your vote.
The Legacy is all yours for your children.
What pact? This is a joke of the year i bet you even with their pact MDC T will trounce them in their home ground that is Matebeleland. It show that they belong to the village politics as what has been allided. Bring on the pact
The pact will go ahead. In fact I am one of the people that will be coming home to register in Feb and come back to vote. I encourage all brothers and sisters living outside zim to do the same. The shonas a scared now thats why they are demonising the pact.
I don’t think tribalist politics will do the country any good. There are 1m people in Matebeleland (estimate) and 12 million in all other regions (again an estimate). The pact will at best win you Matebeleland, then what? The “Shonas” as you call them have nothing to fear under that arrangement. What would work is if Matebeleland chose the better of the two devils (ZPF and MDC-T) and stuck with it to push the other devil out. Your choice of a devil in that case is your prerogative. I would also suggest you relook your somewhat tribalist outlook. It will not do the country any good.
John
What is tribalist politics? Ndebele leadership or Shona political leadership?
If Shonas don’t want Ndebeles as their leaders, why should Ndebeles accept Shonas as their leaders?
Many people in Zimbabwe are of the idea that when a political parties pack is signed it is between political parties of Mashonaland and Matebeleland specifically those people from Mashonaland. The reason why people from Mashonaland are furious is that this pact denies then the right they have enjoyed since ZANU PF ruled the country. You can not close the political divide of Zimbabwe by unworthy pacts that favor a certain tribe at the expense of the other. People of matebeleland have a political right to determine their destiny without influence or pressure from people from outside the region. Political rights are human rights enshrined in the constitution. By coming together people of Matebeleland are solidifying their existence and independence as a political entity. Nowhere in the constitution is a close that bars regional politics.
ZANU PF and later MDC T has institutionalized the concept that to be national you need to have to entice Mabel eland into your folds. The advantage of this to both parties is to divide the people of Matebeleland such that their freedoms are determined by those from Mashonaland. Over a long period leaders from Matebeleland have tried to bring meaningful change to the region but their voices were/are suppressed because doing so would mean disciplinary action from ZANU or MDC-T.
There is also a meiotic view held by people from Mashonaland. Anything done by Ndebele alone is tribalism and counter productive for the country. When Mugabe, Tswangirai and Mutambara close or deny Ncube to attend GNU meetings no one notices. The media too because it is too partisan and promote Shona dominance are quite. When Matebeland leaders sit down and come out with the political pack there is media frenzy. Matebeleland leaders are portrayed negatively. well, ladies and gentlemen the truth is Matebeleland has come of age.
There are people from Matebeleland who have been colonized to think that to form a political party without a Shona is meaningless. There fear or absence of people from Mashonaland make some people from Matebeleland see ghosts. The reason is simple, no one ever belived that blacks alone can function whether politically or economically without whites. This theory has been proven wrong. There are many countries in Africa that have sound economic policies and are economical stable without whites. notable Botswana. So Matebele people, it isnot true that without Shonas you can not determine your political future. They are the reasons behind the suffering you are experiencing. Twsangirai wont bring bread in your homes. You need to work hard to look after your families than think that a person from Buhera will help you. besides Tswangirai and Mugabe are birds of the same furthers but have different colors. they have been groomed to have a dislike of the Ndebele. This dislike and mistrust if evidenced in the GNU principals. I wonder what would be going on in their minds if they would deny a leader of the political party to attend meetings. Readers by your own thinking who do you think within the tree leaders would start to say ‘ Vakoma, Ncuve haapindi pamusangano uyu. I also wonder who is the seconder. this treatment of Ncube (Ndebele ) is further cascaded to every province, district branch and cell of the country. it is copied and implemented thus as a result renders Ndebleles poodles/tools of getting in power.
Divide we fall. United we stand. By far and large every sound person from Matebeleland would support this pack. Even if it may not achieve its full objective now, but tell you what the impact will be felt far and wide and over a long period to come. I also propose merger of these political parties in the future. Political rights do not come over night. What is important in a journey is not to arrive at your destination but a culmination events along the way. So supporting Tswangirai to dislodge Mugane will not benefit Matebeleland. Actually MDC T must receive the same treatment that ZANU PF is getting from Matebeleland. VUkani Mahalbezulu. This time the world is awoke. They wont be sleeping like when Gukurahundi devoured us.
To Temba Makhanjana
Themba Zimbabwe is not about tribalism; it is supposed to be for all those who happen to call it home; simply because they were created to live in the area between the Zambezi River to the north, the Limpopo to the south, the eastern Highlands to the east and the Ramakwevana and the Shashi, to the west.
There is nothing as primitive and dangerous as “tribalism”. The problem however and how very sickening, is that most of those turning and advocating for tribalism, are what today are known as “academics”. Academics are those individuals who through resilience have assimilated what those we call “intellectuals” have created. Whilst intellectuals have the ability to create new innovation, be they scientific, literal or other fields, academics then study these, pass them at times with flying colors, and become masters of what they would not have created themselves. They however are not able to reason outside what they have crammed in the intellectual’s books and creation. What then follows is the failure to articulate what would have been meant by the originator. Most of today’s politicians are academics that have failed to make it in their own fields of study, and in their quest for political glory, embrace and employ negatives like tribalism, regionalism, nepotism, factionalism and now devolution, to try and pollute the peoples thinking for their own selfish agendas.
The Shonas accepted and gave sanctuary amongst themselves to a fleeing Matabeleland group led Mzilikazi Ka Matshobana. Despite the fact that they could not understand what the Ndebele were saying, the Shonas, however understood the fact that these new entrance, required food, water and a place to call home. Chaka later sent Soshangana to hunt down the fleeing Ndebeles, but he went back without them because the Shonas could not allow them to do so. Now, what is this rubbish we are hearing about the Union of the parties of Matabeleland?
Zanu and Mdc-T are in an election pact to hand over power peaceful are they have rigged elections in their favour.Tswangirai was once a Zanu comrade and he wil forever be.Ncube will so stupid to get into a pact with MDC-t before first round of voting because he wil be discarded after MDC -t victory.He has to wait until second rround that where ,MDC lead by Ncube will be more relevant.
The ideal situation is to ensure that no Shona-led political party wins a seat in Mthwakazi and that all Shona-led parties are consigned to Shona-speaking provinces, where they should split and share the votes/parliamentary seats.
In this way, a balance of regional power will be ensured and Shona arrogance eliminated. Consequently there will be more respect for each other between Zimbabwean tribes, political parties and their leaders.
Crying about tribalism and accusing each other of tribalism doesn’t help because as we all know – tribalism is real in Zim and has been a feature of our politics since the struggle days. These guys are simply accepting and facing up to the reality instead of pretending otherwise as most Shonas would prefer!
You cannot outsource solutions for the problems faced by your people and your region/s to other people of a different tribal inclination.
Shona political leadership has proved that this is not possible, over and over again. Given their never-ending grudges against Mthwakazi for the 1800s tribal raids – attempting to join hands with these people is simply an exercise in futility!
On another page:
“Mugabe, Tsvangirai strike poll pact
January 4, 2013 in Politics”
Interestingly, nobody calls this tribal or tribalism – abantu besi Shoneni are arrogant madoda. I have never come cross such tribalists as Shona people in the whole of Africa!!
Just do it. Forget about amaShona
ZanuPf machinations at its best.
I have alwats said Welshman Ncube is a stumbling block to change. This coalation is just good news for ZanuPf because obvious they will just take the opposition seats and zanupf as usually will romp home in Mashonaland and because Matebeleland is divided it will now share the spoils of Masvingo and Manicaland with MDC-T meaning it will win and no change so Welshmane Ncube is not an agent of change.
shonas a trbalist blv u me t morgan is at it jus like mugabe did,in away e decision is ryt welshman is doing a mavelas move indeed
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